In the second segment of his weekly podcast, Tyler Green talks with curator Karen Wilkin about the exhibition American Vanguards: Graham, Davis, Gorky, de Kooning and Their Circle, 1927–1942, on view at the Amon Carter Museum, Fort Worth, Texas through August 19, 2012. (Note: the first segment is an interview with artist Barbara Kruger, Wilkin's interview begins 40:25 into the program)

Wilkin notes the importance of John Graham to the American painters: "Graham was always in the middle of it… He's the glue." She also comments on how each artist was important to the others' development: "That kind of cross-fertilization is what fascinates us… It's not just that they're looking at European modernism, that's how these artists are always discussed, in relation to what was going on in Paris. Of course they're paying attention to that, but they're also looking at each other's interpretations of European modernism and learning from each other."