Dylan Kerr interviews Katherine Bernhardt on the occasion of her exhibition Pablo and Efrain at Venus over Manhattan, on view through October 24, 2015.

Bernhardt comments: "I’m thinking more about daily life, about products and things that we use. I’m thinking about stuff at the deli, things like that… They’re just good colors and shapes. Look at a sock: it’s got really good colors, white with red and blue stripes. Toilet paper is a squarish oval. A cigarette is a line. A dorsal fin is a triangle, and so is a Dorito … I think the best painters don’t intellectualize their own art—they just make stuff. It’s more about color choices and color combinations."